Let the deglosser sit … Mix the milk paint. Give each coat 30 to 60 minutes to dry. Mix the two ingredients in a wide-mouthed jar. According to Steve, the secret is building a believable story about the life your piece would have led if it had been built 100 or more years ago. I have a dining table that I want to refinish the top. To make a smaller 1-lb cut batch for this project, simply measure about 1 oz of flakes on a small kitchen scale and 8 oz of alcohol in a measuring cup. Return to “General Discussions Forum” Some shellac comes brush-ready in a can, but Steve prefers starting with fresh flakes (see the Buying Guide). Adding a few extra wear marks later is a lot easier than trying to correct the damage if you go overboard. The neatest aspect of an antique finish is that it’s never truly finished. Thanks for all the suggestions. The color was "java" but I don't remember the brand off-hand. Apply the base coats. Brush on the shellac quickly. While testing his finish combination on a sample board, Steve discovered that the orange shellac turned the snow white milk paint pink. Some folks want a piece that looks 100 years old; others want something that looks like it came fresh out of the workshop (albeit, 100 years ago). If your scrap box is full, consider building a small test project, like the salt box featured in Issue #18, (Aug/Sept 2007). While painting over old polish will only lead to uneven nails (and looks unappealing after a couple of days), with a coat like shellac, chips and cracks will only show even more. I have used shellac on very dry plaster (damp or moist plaster will causes blisters as trapped water affected by the seasons ) with acrylic paint and the more coats of shellac the more intense the colour instant old and it still looks the same 20 years later! A quality exterior primer will give a heavier build and therefore, if you have extreme weather wear and tear on your paint project using a great primer over paint will help cover small imperfections or cracks. Why do you want to paint the table and what look are you going for,and lastly what kind and how much wear will this table receive. If you realize you need to shellac after applying Chalk Paint®- that is okay…go ahead and apply the shellac. Most professionals agree that water-based varnish is the best product to use over paint. The hardest part is believing that the final finish will look good. Can I put a clear top coat of lacquer or shellac over acrylic paint. These spots will reveal the base coat even after the topcoat has been sanded away. The paint will even out by the second same-color coat. Here's what our experts had to say. Give the paint one more stir, scoop away any froth from the top, and you’re ready to paint. For a thicker, more protective film for the shelves, apply two to three coats. Lightly moisten a rag and wipe your furniture. While you will need these items to complete the cupboard or other similar project, you’ll have plenty left over to continue experimenting with this safe and colorful finish combo. Subscribe to the newsletter and get 10% off your next purchase in addition to the latest products, guides and project ideas. But you may see the paint shucking it … There are probably better choices available,what is the finish on the table now?. Shellac sets up almost immediately. And it doesn't matter if the shellac contains wax or not. A pottery shard can replicate the scratches and dents that would come from generations of kitchen wear and tear. Apply Wax. A sealer coat of shellac or varnish solves both problems. You can use one coat to seal the wood. The best thing about milk paint is that it looks better as it ages. You must be logged in to write a comment. There are other types of clearcoat and not all of them are compatible with being coated with lacquer. Create a century’s worth of character in a weekend with friendly finishes and some simple tools. Two light coats of Salem red paint should completely cover the marigold yellow base. A wipe-on varnish doesn’t build nearly as rapidly as full-strength varnish, but the fast-drying product is handy when finishing in a dusty workshop. A shellac primer tends to be almost the same consistency as water, owing to its alcohol-base. When shellac is still wet but no longer flowing, you may lightly tip-off the surface, but don’t overdo it. Yes you can put shellac over paint(I believe shellac would stick to peanut butter). This article is from Issue 21 of Woodcraft Magazine. Dip half the length of the bristles into the finish and lightly tap the flat side of the brush against the container’s side to shake off excess. If you brush shellac, use a good-quality brush. This is the acrylic craft paint like you can buy at Wally World. Your next coats should brush on just like a thin-bodied latex paint or stain. If you realize you need to shellac after applying Chalk Paint®- that is okay…go ahead and apply the shellac. Can I used latex paint over shellac or oil based primer? A forum community dedicated to router and woodworking professionals and enthusiasts. I will let you know how it goes. The shellac-to-solvent ratio, called a “cut,” refers to the amount of shellac (in pounds) dissolved in denatured alcohol (in gallons). now that that is out of the way, yes shellac is a good base coat. (See the story “True Grits” on page 56.) The water-to-powder ratio is about 1:1, but as when making pancakes, don’t be afraid to tweak the mix. The beauty to Steve’s technique is that it allows you to choose how much character you want to start off with. Paint manufacturers often make products called deglossers, designed to scuff up shiny finishes such as shellac, muting their reflectiveness or preparing them to bond to a new finish. To help the aging process along, Steve applies a simple but convincing strategy for adding all sorts of scratches, dents, and dings. (It takes longer, but you can also machine and/or hand-sand all surfaces up to 180 grit.). If you’re patient, there’s nothing wrong with watching it naturally develop its own patina, just like a real antique. Or oil based paint on latex or shellac primer? Finally, use sandpaper to slightly advance the wear along corners, edges, and those areas where hands would naturally wear through the finish. For example, shelves bear minor scratches from pottery, while the base might suffer larger dents and chips from accidental kicks and knocks. By Wade Shaddy Varnish can be used to protect, preserve, and enhance paint. In the 1920s shellac was replaced in factories by lacquer for two primary reasons: shellac resin (from bug secretions) is a commodity product that was going up in price as demand increased, while lacquer was going down in price; and lacquer thinner (a blend of solvents) makes lacquer much mor… Stir the paint to make sure the solids stay mixed in the paint. Polyurethane. Unlike oil-based paints, shellac paint is fairly inflexible; don't use it on areas that need to bend or that come under pressure. I was going for a more flat-satin finish. Part of his interest is to create a handcrafted look. All you need to do is rub it on liberally and then wipe the surface to seal it. Finally, give the paint about 30 minutes to sit to ensure that the dry ingredients have had enough time to absorb moisture. JavaScript is disabled. The materials used for this project might create an “antique” look,  but they are not old-fashioned. Additional sanding will begin to uncover the yellow base coat. Use the rough rounded face for making dents and the sharp edge for deeper gouges. Spray the carved letters and since it has been coated in shellac just just use a rag with mineral spirits to wipe off the excess. Give the piece two to four hours to dry before brushing on a second coat. Go Antiquing with Milk Paint and Shellac. He does not; however, cover the your case of shellac over latex paint because the context of his book is wood finishes that do not hide the look of the wood itself. You can apply the shellac directly over any previously applied paint as long as it is dry. It is important to keep this in mind, especially if you will be using a sprayer, as the tip must be kept very small to avoid over-application of the shellac, resulting in runs in the paint and uneven coverage. Why do you want to paint the table and what look are you going for,and lastly what kind and how much wear will this table receive. AND if you use paint over any surface you obviously know that the subsequent coats are likely to show the quality of that surface. One nice thing about painting a project is that it gives you the freedom to mix different species of wood in the same piece. After applying the wax, rub off most of the excess, leaving a few extra gobs in the cracks and corners, such as around the door knobs and in the crown molding’s sharp corners. The nice thing about distressing is that you can control the history of your piece. Apply the topcoats. You now have a choice. Poly, lacquer, waterbased poly…. When the wood dries, knock off the raised wood whiskers with 220-grit sandpaper. Pour some shellac into a separate clean container. Can't decide what to get the woodworker in your life. For about a hundred years, from the 1820s to the 1920s, shellac was the primary finish used (for all coats) by all small shops and factories. Depending on how it’s held, it can be used for dents, chips, or scraping away paint. Lacquer is a nice finish but it will not stand up to the wear and tear of a table used as described and it had problems with some of the normal cleaning products used today. If a drip doesn’t wipe away with a freshly-dipped brush, wait until it dries completely, then sand or slice it off before applying the next coat. Sand lightly between coats. This can also happen with unfinished wood containing lots of tannin which is often in the form of knots in the wood or furniture with existing mildew or watermarks. (To see how and where the tools are used, refer to the photos left and below.). The choice is yours. Even if you have started painting your piece with milk paint and didnt use shellac, you can use shellac between coats of milk paint and the milk paint will still adhere fine. (3 coats), This is the look I want on the top and skirt --->. Once mixed, either from flakes or directly from a can, shellac can be brushed on, ragged on or sprayed onto your project. Under a few coats of paint, no one will know the difference. Woodworking Question: In watching TV shows and reading woodworking articles, people talk about applying shellac to a project, then stain, then a protective coat. First determine if the paint has been clear coated in any way already. I am clueless here. Starting from the minute you bring the piece out of your shop, it will start developing its own custom patina. A brick is Steve’s all-purpose distressing tool. I'd like to add my 2 cents worth. Can I use Clear shellack over a krylon type spray paint? It’s impossible to appreciate milk paint until you’ve laid down a few coats. One side or shelf may see more damage than the rest. After giving the milk paint a full day to dry, lightly hand-sand all surfaces with 320-grit sandpaper or a maroon-colored abrasive pad. Break hard edges with 220-grit sandpaper. Though it is not quite as people friendly, lacquer in an aerosol can will dry about as fast if you keep the coats very thin. Yes, you can use ALL 3 types of primers over or under latex and oil based paint. If I were going for the look in the pic - I'd strip the finish that is on it now and then stain it with a really dark stain. Apply the first coat using full, even strokes following the wood grain (Photo D). A good brush carries more shellac to your project and that allows you a better flow of the shellac for a smoother finish. Lightly moisten a rag and wipe your furniture. Simulating the dents and scratches that accumulate through years of everyday use is an art in itself. You can put anything you want over shellac. I would use a wipe on ploy to give it a hard finish coat and a flat-satin finish. This reversibility is a pain, but it has one advantage in that you can constantly revive brushes used in shellac paint simply by dunking in shellac-based paint. Just remember you cannot shellac directly over wax! Give extra attention to the corners of tabletops and the upper front edges of shelves. To apply, Steve wipes on just enough varnish to wet the surface, as shown in Photo E. Then he wipes off the excess before it gets too tacky. Steve’s found that dark brown wax can replicate the aged look, but without the wait. If you wish to make your new piece look old, read “Distressing Done Right.”. Steve also combines shellac flakes and denatured alcohol to make a smooth, fast-drying topcoat. Apply the topcoat following the grain of the wood. Make a 1-lb shellac cut. Here, Steve adds a few dents and bumps to the surface (See “Distressing Done Right”). As much as I’ve done in wood working I’ve never used shellac over paint. Over-brushing will lift or wrinkle the finish. If you are waxing with Annie Sloan wax, wait 48 hours and paint over it. When in doubt, wait and watch. Apply a dark wax topcoat. Soften the edges of chips and gouges so that they don’t look fresh. I wanted to sand and paint the top black. If you've created a craft incorporating food, such as a wreath covered in candy corn or a Valentine bowl covered in candy hearts, you'll need a technique to preserve the food part so it doesn't spoil over time. Mix up a second color of milk paint, just as you did for the base and primer coats. The roughest corner works much like a coarse rasp. Some glossy surfaces will benefit from sanding first. It needs to be a durable one as it is our main dining table. Is … Make a 1-lb shellac cut. I refer you to "Understanding Wood Finishes" by Bob Flexner in which he makes this case. Use a wiping varnish on the white shelves and cabinet back to seal and protect the paint without adding unwanted color. Trying out the finish on a practice board, like the one shown below, can help. While other paints chip or peel, milk paint wears away to reveal wood, or additional colors, beneath. I just used a 'gel' stain for a table and it came out very nice. Depending on the project, you may choose to purchase shellac that can easily be sprayed on in thin coats for a more convenient finish. Come join the discussion about different types of routing and routers, shop safety, finishing, woodworking related topics, styles, tools, scales, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Once dry, the first coat will look blotchy, but don’t worry. Either topcoat can provide smooth surface protection and will bring out the rich look of the paint. Using his technique, (see “Distressing Done Right,” page 40), you can add a century’s worth of character in an afternoon. Because each coat partially dissolves the previous one, brush quickly when applying additional coats. Log In. The easy solution was to switch to a different finish. I would be sure and let it cure. Once dry, the steel wool and wax treatment will give it a soft sheen and a silky feel. If I didn't explain well enough,please let me know. FAQ about paint primers. When you can’t see any more flakes, your shellac is ready to apply. There are probably better choices available,what is the finish on the table now?. To avoid making drips and runs on vertical surfaces, work from the top down and use a drier brush. Adding color also gives extra freedom and flexibility to create a piece that can complement any room in your home. Shellac is really used mostly for woodworking and isn’t used as a varnish for fine-art applications. To do this, simply pour dry mix (Steve is using marigold yellow) into a water-filled container, as shown in Photo A. If you have a piece that has an old red stain to it that keeps coming through your paint, shellac works really well to block it from coming through. Note that wear doesn’t happen evenly. Shellac … Essentially a plastic in the form of a liquid until it dries, polyurethane is available in … (Here, Steve uses Salem red.) For brushing, Steve suggests a 1-lb or 2-lb cut. Besides adding color, the wax, applied with 0000# steel wool as shown in Photo F, gives the piece a smooth hand-rubbed finish. For a newer-looking piece, brush off the milk paint dust and go to Step 4. I generally use latex paint for the wood surface, just wondering what shellac I can use over it. Let dry and add a second coat. Generally speaking, shellac-based finishes can be used between any two other finishes. I don't know what kind of topcoat to use. The trick to brushing shellac is to work quickly and evenly. Add more water—a few drops at a time—until you get a mix that’s smooth enough to spread, but still thick enough to cover the wood. Home For the base and topcoats, make the paint from the milk paint powder. Articles Hi Garth, The alcohol in the shellac is dissolving the acrylic in the paint. It will feel slightly rough, so sand between coats lightly with 220-grit sandpaper. Why the shellac before the stain? Some people use this as a blocker if they have bleed through and have had great success. A sealer coat of shellac or varnish solves both problems. On tops of anything I chalk paint I use-water base polyurethane, and wax and age the fronts. So if you apply shellac paint over itself, the solvent in the topcoat softens up the coating beneath. Lightly rub with methylated spirits soaked steel wool to smooth the surface between them. Allow the finish a day or two to completely cure before attempting to sand off any dust nibs with 320-grit sandpaper. It can also be used as an isolating film between layers of paint… At this point, most woodworkers would fill dents and nail holes with latex filler, before applying the first coat. I’m also curious about beeswax… Excess paint will quickly crumble off. Milk paint is not only easy to apply and quick to dry, it’s also a no-VOC (Volatile Organic Compounds) finish. Try out these steps on a sample board, and you will soon see what we mean. The way most of this type of furniture is finished is by bleaching the natural color out of the wood,sealing,glazing and then top coating with lacquer. Use different amounts of pressure to create different-sized holes. See the Buying Guide key on page 39. Brush on the shellac. Thanks in advance for your help. With all the modern advances in coatings -- polyurethane, shellac, urethane, or varnish -- some confusion about formula is to be expected. You can apply oil-base varnish (non-poly) over shellac without any problem. To prevent the water in milk paint from raising the grain, wet the surfaces with a damp rag or plant mister. Now, all you have to do is add water (See the Convenience-Plus Buying Guide, page 39). Using that story, you can start making authentic-looking wear marks with just a few simple tools. Mixing milk paint is no more difficult than making pancakes; brushing it on is the same as with any thin-bodied paint. Lay on the first coat using dabbing and brushing strokes, as shown in Photo B. Don’t worry if it doesn’t look even; focus on not leaving any drips or puddles on the wood. Dab on the first coat with a disposable brush, focusing on a thin, even coat. Traditionally, painted finishes were used for softwoods and plainer hardwoods, but as you can see there’s nothing plain about it. Nope, too brittle and the solvent would likely damage the painting if you brushed it on. Buff off the flat surfaces but leave some wax behind in cracks and crevices. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Using shellac, which can be found at any building supply or craft store, you can preserve the food to keep the craft intact. Let dry and sand again. The milk paint and shellac treatment used for Steve Rigrish’s reproduction is similar to materials that would have been used on the original, but this simple finishing technique is equally suitable for modern furniture. You can pour excess finish down the kitchen drain. Apply the wiping varnish. If you have applied wax already, then you will need to lift the wax using mineral spirits. A piece that spent a few years in a basement or barn might sport more worm holes than one that never left the kitchen. There are several things to consider when lacquering over painted wood. Apply a liquid deglosser to the cabinets, doors and drawer fronts with a rag. Over many years, grime gradually collects in pores, cracks, and crevices. (if your interested I can look it up tomorrow, I'm sure I have notes in my log). I like water base poly so the tops. Add two or three more thin coats of shellac with a soft brush, or spray it from an aerosol can. Yes you can put shellac over paint(I believe shellac would stick to peanut butter). (Shaking will help prevent the flakes from caking at the bottom and can speed up the process, but to ensure that the flakes have time to completely dissolve, Steve suggests mixing the ingredients a day or two before you plan to brush.) In this case, he chose a wipe-on varnish, not only because it didn’t affect the color of the white paint, but also because it offers extra protection for those areas that will receive extra wear. Use an awl to make insect holes in exposed end grain, along the base, or any other spots where bugs might see an easy way in. Apply the first topcoat as quickly and evenly as possible, as shown in Photo C. Avoid leaving puddles which later can flake off and reveal unwanted circular patches of base color. Just wait, watch, and enjoy. If you have applied wax already, then you will need to lift the wax using mineral spirits. Denatured alcohol is also used to thin shellac-based paints but should never be applied to a finished shellac coating since it may dissolve the base. To deal with these situations, you can block the silicone fairly successfully by applying a first coat of shellac or you can add fish-eye eliminator to your finish. Dry milk paint is depressingly flat and blotchy, until you apply the topcoat. Similarly, shellac is another all-natural safe product that’s widely used in food, drugs, and cosmetics in addition to wood finishes. Be careful not to sand too much, or you may cut into the wood, which will only lead to more whiskers when you apply the paint. Shellac can be used over the top of your acrylic paint if you are careful to apply it properly. This product is silicone itself, and it lowers the surface tension of the finish enough so it can flow out over the slick silicone contamination. Shellac is most often used in artwork as a sealing finish on wood or other porous substrates that will later be painted over. Asked on Jun 23, 2017 Can you put shellac or any type of sealant over chalk paint? Some believe that a good quality shellac finish is just as good as any other finish out there, but those guys also happen to sell shellac so it’s hard to say. My advise would be to strip the top and finish with whatever color you prefer and topcoat with a phenolic resin varnish.Waterlox original varnish and Rockhard varnish are twobrands. http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT-n4ng0PJZUCEv2RWaEpMA/videos, http://www.routerforums.com/search.php?searchid=944097, http://ww2.potterybarn.com/cat/pip....hpcfurdintbl|rshop&pkey=cfurdintbl&gids=p5042, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The way to prevent it is to use shellac over the areas that are giving you a problem. As shown in the project, Steve carefully removes milling marks with a combination of hand planes and card scrapers. As demonstrated in the “Step-back Cupboard” on page 22, a painted finish can be as important to the success of your project as your choice of wood or hardware. The shellac-to-solvent ratio, called a “cut,” refers to the amount of shellac (in pounds) dissolved in denatured alcohol (in gallons). Mix together equal amounts of milk paint powder and water, then gradually add water for better brushing consistency. The first coat will dry to the touch in minutes, but wait at least four hours between coats. Try to catch drips on the return brushstroke before they have time to film over. Once, woodworkers made their own milk paint by combining lime, milk protein, clay, and pigment. The combination of a coat of shellac followed by a few coats of oil-base varnish will produce an attractive and durable natural finish. Just remember you cannot shellac directly over wax! 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